When David Toop came to Exeter to promote his book Ocean of Sound, I was surprised to find out that he didn’t listen to much music. At the time I was still eagerly in our local indie record shop, Binary Star, every week, chatting to other regulars and seeing what the young owners had ordered in, often with specific customers (me included) in mind. Music was playing most of the time in my lounge or study or studio, had been for decades, since my teens…
Now I seem to be in a similar place to where Toop arrived ahead of me. Part of this is simply changing circumstance: a full-time job, children who needed to sleep without being disturbed, and losing a serious part of my hearing as I get older. But some of is simply the fact that, like reading a passage from a favourite book, I don’t need to hear much of it again. A verse, a chorus, a solo, a phrase or instrumental squawk, even an LP sleeve, is often enough to let me recall the music that has embedded itself within me.
I haven’t got perfect recall or a photographic memory, and I continue to listen to and download loads of new music, often on the back of friends’ email recommendations or articles by journalists whose opinions I trust. The house is still full of music, if that is, you count piles of LPs and CDs (OK, I still have my cassettes too) but I live in a much quieter house these days and find it easier to work with the low burble of Radio 4 voices than with jazz, improv or rock blasting out. Ambient works well in my painting studio, can help me mentally move into a different space, but gone are the days of 18 hours of loud music on the stereo.
Toop and I sat with our coffee and listened to a CD play through, something new he had expressed an interest in that I happened to have. When it ended he said ‘Thank you, that was interesting’ and we continued our conversation before driving down to Spacex Gallery where I co-promoted music and readings under the Litmus banner. I hadn’t listened to anything with that kind of attention for a long time, it reminded me of buying new LPs as a teenager, poring over the lyric sheet, gatefold art as I heard the music for the first time. It was a reminder to listen to, not simply consume, music.
Now I am older, I am faced – as many others have before me – with what to do with my collections. I know that one of my friends simply took his cassette collection to the dump, know another carefully auctioned off his prized jazz vinyl collection, and that others have subscribed to streaming services, where almost everything seems to be available. I’m sad enough to want an artefact, an object in my hand, in the same way I have a stereo and a boombox for my music, a telephone to speak to people on and a camera for taking photographs.
I sold 400 albums 18 months ago, mostly post-punk but also some jazz, to a record shop owner from London. He came and collected them, I got a good price (so will he, when he sells them on) and I have them on CD, but I miss many of them. I can still tell you where I bought most of them, which ones I found in Record & Tape Exchange’s bargain basement, the clusters of albums I bought at the same time, and the strange little music shop on the edge of Richmond which had a cupboard full of Anthony Braxton albums I had been searching for for many years. My 10 cent copy of Pere Ubu’s Dub Housing I brought back from the States, the mint copy of A Tent’s Six Empty Places album found in a Bath junk shop after years of searching after my cassette copy disintegrated. Many were full of music paper cuttings from the time and, by mistake, I managed to leave a copy of an early Patti Smith poetry pamphlet in one of her albums I sold.
I’m still in touch with two people I met in Binary Star, and also (just about) with two writers it turned out I had unknowingly already met before getting to know them as poets. One worked in the record shop in Hammersmith near my school (and his partner in the record library in the suburb I lived in), the other I had chatted to in the queue at The Venue when a Peter Hammill gig was late starting. Music brings people together, literally. Nowadays of course it’s mostly online but the few music forums I contribute to mean I can ‘chat’ or respond to people in the States, Australia or far flung European countries who share the same kind of musical interests I do.
And of course, if you are persistent, you can usually find a way to contact bands, musicians or authors to interview them. I’m lucky in that I have several outlets I publish in, be they zines, magazines or academic journals, and have learnt that most musicians are interested in talking about their work, as long as it’s not all ancient history. Catch them when a new album or book is due, a retrospective box set has been compiled, books are being reissued, or a concert or reading tour is imminent, and Bob’s your uncle (no, not that Bob).
I tend to send people an email list of questions they can take time to respond to, suggesting they should digress and tangent as they wish, including answering themselves any questions they feel I should have asked. Sometimes there’s further episodes of questions and responses; and I always send them a final edit before I submit and publish. Interviews are best when their subjects tell stories, offer opinions and big up events, connections and the music they make or made. When they try to be diplomatic or analytical it can get dull.
One advantage of academic writing is its reliance on quotations. This means that rather than saying your third album was crap, wasn’t it?’ I can say ‘NME‘s Fred Bloggs suggested that…’ and ask for their response, and in a similar way I can ask questions using quotes about musical influences or how a musical genre or scene was perceived at the time. Maybe everybody mellows as they get older but most musicians and authors are friendly and generous with their time. It could be, of course, that they simply like talking about themselves or welcome being distracted from any actual creative work.
The internet has changed how we think about things. It is easier to read about a book than read the book itself. I can search for reviews, summaries and interviews with the author, then follow links to other recommendations or articles I find there. Several hours later I may return to the book I am meant to be reading. In a similar manner, even when I want to listen to a new single or album I often find myself somewhere else – an online video or obscure blog – rather than where I intended to be. I have become totally distractable, busy creating networks of useless information rather than paying attention, something I once used to do.
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Rupert Loydell
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Excellent article Rupert, and one that certainly resonated with me. Like you, I used to blast out all sorts of noise, with early industrial clanging mixing with punk, post-punk, experimental, electronic, psychedelic (and whatever Captain Beeflheart was) and even selected hard rock (Motorhead/L7, AC/DC – the higher energy, more ‘punk’ stuff). Added to that was my own live rehearsing and recording and that of those I shared a house with. Our neighbours must have cracked open the champagne when we moved on! In my head, I am still doing that. In reality, I play comparatively little music now, and never at that volume except on the rare occasion I decide to blast the cobwebs away to wake myself up. Like you, I do a lot of writing, reviewing and interviewing for the online magazine I help run (Outsideleft), but like you I dip and skim or play stuff whilst I am doing other things. Very rarely do I sit and just listen. Equally rarely will I play the music I get sent again once I have reviewed it. I have a lot of vinyl, CD and cassettes, even more on download. I listen to 0nly a very small fraction of it, and gravitate towards old favourites. I often wonder whether my records are just a form of Wall Art, as if I were to sit down and play each release I have even once, I would be sitting here 24/7 for at least 6 months. I am clearly never going to do that. Now that PR agents and bands have got to know that I can help their exposure through a review or interview, the volumes pouring in are growing. Over 100 new releases come in each week, sometimes more, rarely less. Most are downloads. Many are doubles or even box sets. 90% of those emails I don’t even open. At the end of each week I delete all of the weeks PR emails and start afresh. Its the only way to cope. Some actually send physical releases, which I admire and appreciate the novelty of getting for free, then review and file away in the collection, never to be heard again. Why? I don’t know. So, my listening habits mirror yours. I am a butterfly moving from flower to flower, distracted easily, and rarely getting to the end of anything. Yet I can produce (modesty switch off for a moment!), frankly, excellent and insightful reviews of both books and music based on dipping and tasting rather than eating the whole meal. It is a new skill, but an essential one for any music and culture journalist (for that is actually what I now am, to my surprise). Will I ever listen to music like I used to? No. Should I? Probably, but I won’t. The best method I have found is to adopt a vaguely buddist approach to this. Accept what is, seek happiness in being in the present, and don’t get too attached to anything apart from people you love and yourself.
Comment by Alan Rider on 3 August, 2025 at 10:45 amRituals and habits change with age and circumstances, but the engine for music and creativity keeps running. According to studies I’ve read, the peak age for receptivity to music is between age 10 and 22. After that people tend to shift emphasis to careers, parenting, and so on, and they tend to gravitate towards familiar sounds as there’s less time or appetite for “the new.” This is a generality and I’m well aware there are exceptions.
As for me, a musician by trade, my connection to music started when I needed to FEEL SAFE. When I was very young, observing how music brought people together, if for a time. One of my grandfathers was an ex-vaudevillian and the other an ex-band leader/conductor. The former was an abused, mean man, but music turned him into a human being. I witnessed his transformation and we connected, even as the rest of the family avoided him. I became a singer, pianist, and guitarist, and music made me feel safe in an unsafe environment of home. Even the bullies started to lay off when they heard me play. Wherever my parents took me or whoever I met in school, first thing I’d do is look for an instrument or for their record collection.
During the 1970s, long, often loud, listening sessions were the norm, part of a relationship ritual with musicians and friends. By the 1980s enmassed a large music collection, collecting every rarity and B-side by favorite artists (it certainly helped that I worked in music stores where I could get things cheap/free + I still scour thrift stores). However, by the 90s, having a mortgage, car payments, and family, it became less feasible to listen on impulse. By the 00s, CD reissues and the Net brought out “rarities” in new formats and it was less necessary to be “a collector completist.”
Plus my appetites were being shaped by my career–I was constantly working as a musician and a producer, much of my listening time was spent learning music and/or studying recordings to understand the goals of a studio client. I’d spend hours in that mode but having far less time to listen recreationally to my favorites. I’ve actually become more passive, enjoying whatever is playing (someone else’s choices, grocery store, radio) and studying it with no reason to exert an opinion. It’s liberating to not have to exert myself over likes and dislikes.
In 2011-13 I went through some major life changes and basically lost everything materially. I’d already started to downsize my media (books, records, etc.), but this was down to zero. I haven’t rebuilt that collection but I don’t miss it and will probably never collect again. That said, today I connect with music in more expansive ways. I ask myself: What it the purpose of it? What was the goal of the creator? Does it resonate with my personal values? If it doesn’t, why do other people get it and I don’t? Does that matter? Isn’t it enough that they enjoy it and it’s well made material? …and so on. Very little annoys me and my opinions are curated and brief.
I still discover new artists and get excited to share the discovery with others, sometimes even buying their product just to support (since they’re most Indies or artists I know personally). Even though I don’t sit and listen like I did when I younger, I enjoy music more than ever because my mind and heart are more clear and receptive than before. I’m grateful for musical road I’ve had.
Comment by Johnny J. Blair on 4 August, 2025 at 12:05 am